Dictionary definitions are fine, but it is perhaps best to look at the law and the form you are filling out which sometimes has a definition of Hispanic. The organization in which I am currently employed defines Hispanic as "Someone who is descended from the cultures or peoples of the Iberian peninsula or from those countries or cultures which have been historically been in association with these." (Personally I think that includes most of the world.) Why should we deny ourselves jobs, minority scholarships or contracts just because Portugal split off at a certain point from Spain? With too strict a definition Brazilians are not included in Latino which means the largest country in South America does not qualify as part of Latin America - which I have seen argued. On the other hand, I have seen Italians considered Latino since they were the first.
While you are arguing whether or not you are Hispanic the bigots are discriminating against you. I did not get a job because it was decided "We have enough Spics" Bigots who cannot tell the difference between a Hindu and a Moslem surely cannot tell the differences between a person with a "z" or an "s" at the end of a name.
If a German moved to Mexico became a citizen then moved to the USA he would be classified as Hispanic and then benefit from the minority protections! I never thought of myself as Hispanic until I realized that I needed the protection of the anti-discrimination laws.
Interestingly, my father's family considered themselves Luso-Americans and my mother's Portuguese-Americans. To start another discussion what is the difference? I think it was more than semantic, the paternal side joined the Luso-American club, etc., the maternal the Portuguese-American versions of these clubs and organizations.
Ethnically, I have decided on human. Legally, Hispanic though I am always told you don't look it. A lawyer told me that the company would have to fight it out in court if they wanted to challenge me.
I classify my friends, colleagues and acquaintances as human, though I have always wanted to have a Martian friend. Perhaps someday! Best wishes to my fellow humans, D. Araujo
(Usually pronounced incorrectly as an Italian name or the Spanish way with the "H" which I then have to correct) Araujo is definitely a Spanish name, probably started by a French knight!?!
I don't feel comfortable with the title "Hispanic" as I am not descended from anyone from Spain. I don't feel comfortable with the title " Lusitano" as it is a roman name and my grandparents did not come from Lusitania they came from PORTUGAL. As I am the second generation of fully Portuguese blooded family born in the USA I am very comfortable as a "Portuguese American." I am very American ,very Portuguese and very proud of my heritage . In Georgia before integration of the "Black" and "White"the majority of "white" people treated Portuguese Americans as second class citizens ,somewhere between white and black. After integration the "white" people wanted to increase their numbers and so suddenly we were no longer in between but were "white". I say all this ancient history to explain that I am also uncomfortable with employment forms etc. that state :
WHITE___ AFRO/AMERICAN___ HISPANIC_____ OTHER_____ as the only choices. I remember when I wasn't considered "white enough", I am not afro/american ,Hispanic and don't like being reduced to OTHER. If they would ask for ethnic descent and make the choices ASIAN____ AFRICAN_____EUROPEAN _____NATIVE AMERICAN_____ MIDDLE EASTERN____ and list all other major ethnic groups so as not to appear to Highlight the first 3 groups I would feel comfortable.
Otherwise HUMAN BEING____ and NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS____ would be my favorites.
Robert And Karen Martin
In America the «Hispanic» and «latino» terms are referred to those of mixed White/Native-American descent (the mestizos), as most of the people of the Central and South American continent are. Spaniards, and Portuguese on this specific case, are not «Hispanics» nor «latinos», are White/Europeans.
Greetings. R. de Oliveira
I do not claim to be Hispanic (although when I get pulled over by officers that is what is checked). I do not claim to be Portuguese. I will claim to be Latino or Açoreano. The United States likes to assimilate people into either black or white. I have found nothing but acceptance from our Spanish speaking brothers and sisters. The Portuguese speaking latinos always like to say "our culture is different than theirs". That is non-sense, there are more similarities than anything else. The Portuguese speaking immigrants have to be some of the most assimilating immigrants the United States has ever had. Our brothers have changed their names to fit in better and everything else. The lighter skinned ones, have definitely used that to their benefits, much like light skinned black people. Enough is enough, divide and conquer is wonderful tactic that is being used here between the Portuguese and the Spanish. For the most part people have no idea what I am when they look at me, and I'll keep them guessing. I know my people have problems accepting others at times. This will change with education. I will continue being LATINO until die. I will argue it until I die if need be. As my father from the island of Santa Maria, Açores says quite frequently "They can't stop this Latin Blood".. Hispanic. no. Latino. yes. Kevin Figueiredo
I am 100% in full agreement with what Mr. Figueiredo has stated. There is a young Azorean writer Miguel Moniz who writes for the Portuguese Times in New Bedford, Massachusetts he is amazing. He dissects this topic inside and out , and has great insight. These beliefs come from my father's generation who believe Portugal actually cared about the islands, thus they considered themselves "European". Since coming to this country and experiencing the cold shoulder my father has learned to embrace our Latin brothers, for that I am very proud of him.. Wake up Azorean immigrants the "motherland" never cared for you or my ancestors, we were left to starve and were the first ones sent off to fight their wars. The 1st generation who actually received schooling understands this (not by any fault of my parents generation). Latino is a culture or ethnicity I believe and if you look closely you will see a common thread between all the Latino communities. We come from the Moors, Northern A Hispanic no Latin yes. Paul Vasconcelos
Some people think that when we say that we're not Hispanic, we're putting the true Hispanics down. This is not the case. The Portuguese are one of the most civic minded nationalities in the world. One of the first to abolish slavery and capital punishment. Yes, we are from Latin origin, but so are the French and the Italians. I don't see anyone in the States call them Hispanics. But for an American to consider us to be of Spanish descent is like telling a Greek that he is of Turkish descent. It is an outrage and an offence to the Portuguese nation and people. I'm not right wing but a patriot. My family first started to emigrate to the US in the turn of the 20th century like many others. I too live abroad (Canada). The only difference between first generation Portuguese emigrants and third generation Americans from European origin is that their ancestors came by boat and we came by plane.
Viva os Açores, Viva Portugal, Ivone Rosa